tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9078157424531850345.post6198189465455302008..comments2024-03-24T02:03:40.254-07:00Comments on Chasin' Jesus: Emanuel, Black Voters, Clinton, SandersUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9078157424531850345.post-83846190292600455852015-12-07T01:51:06.390-08:002015-12-07T01:51:06.390-08:00Sanders has already capitulated in one aspect----h...Sanders has already capitulated in one aspect----he's been taken in by a Super PAC, and immediately removed any criticism of Super PACS from his speeches. Owned! <br /><br />Any solutions for or to the system have to come from outside the system, and I can't think of a better way than following (or trying to follow) the WAY, not worshipping the MAN one day a week & raising all-fired hell the rest of it. <br /><br />We're like alcoholics, and sometimes it's one minute, one hour, one day at a time coping with pride. Pride causes entropy---faster.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04593195823514805943noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9078157424531850345.post-42820040606933779932015-12-06T19:09:46.683-08:002015-12-06T19:09:46.683-08:00A more equitable distribution would be great; but ...A more equitable distribution would be great; but we have to first discern what constitutes wealth - where does it come from, and how? Prosperity as it is commonly understood - as you say - to be property and consumables. People need a few possessions, and as animals we are required to consume. God, as I understand God - only through the Incarnation (the before and after of that is beyond my ken) provides grace. The gift. Whether we give what we receive is left to us. And we are fallen creatures. Some things, about the world, however, are discernible through reason. Political economy, for example - but a lot of ideological veils have to be lifted to make these things apprehensable.Stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06215820765679948105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9078157424531850345.post-36390247188821661472015-12-06T16:24:26.130-08:002015-12-06T16:24:26.130-08:00Hmmm. I understand the urge to focus on the local,...Hmmm. I understand the urge to focus on the local, and on improving our own input to the world...<br /><br />Is the problem that you think a more equitable distribution of wealth (within USA) would only foster more consumption? A growing middle class, financially and politically empowered, and hungering for the worlds resources? <br /><br />Thanks for the response and getting me to think a bit more about it. My gut says that there is no turning back, short of war or pandemic, and that no matter what we do or say there will be a quickening.<br /><br />God did not put us here (outside the garden) to live in static harmony.<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11428367090709733525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9078157424531850345.post-58013715978493047302015-12-06T15:47:28.700-08:002015-12-06T15:47:28.700-08:00Roosevelt did what he had to to rescue capitalism ...Roosevelt did what he had to to rescue capitalism from its own excesses, including a careful entry into war and the incarceration of Japanese-Americans, etc. It was always a temporary fix; and I am not an advocate of core-nation prosperity. It necessarily comes at the expense of other people abroad. Did then, does now, always will.<br /><br />As to a more 'progressive' congress - I am not progressive, and abhor the term as well as the movement - that won't happen either, because of the mechanics of politics, the wealth primary. patronage, et al -- but the greater the scale (319 million in the US), the less capacity for anything that justifies the term self-governance. No such thing has ever existed in history beyond the village level.<br /><br />I'd happily vote Sanders just to stick my thumb in the eye of the system, but the least free person on the planet is the POTUS. It's one thing to describe what is going on, but another altogether to believe it is susceptible to public rituals like elections. It isn't. Moreover, whatever comes next will be broken, too. The best we can do is to love, serve, and make peace where we can. Forgiveness helps too. I am always needing a measure of that.Stanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06215820765679948105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9078157424531850345.post-25153953578805027592015-12-06T14:54:26.868-08:002015-12-06T14:54:26.868-08:00I acknowledge that Sanders would have a difficult ...I acknowledge that Sanders would have a difficult time if he were elected President, and would likely be lacerated by the many sharp teeth of the gears in the machine. <br /><br />On the other hand consider the change in the electorate that would be necessary for him to win... consider that if he did win, he would likely be accompanied by a relatively progressive congress. I'm not saying that he can feed the multitudes with a few fish and loves of bread... but would that not be a positive outcome? Roosevelt wasn't Jesus either, but did he not put us on a path towards more widespread prosperity, which alleviated much suffering and permitted a lot of good work to be done? <br /><br />I'm not trying to get you to endorse Sanders... but do you see no hope in politics, or the efforts of people to govern themselves in a more inclusive and less bellicose manner?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11428367090709733525noreply@blogger.com